tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1678761812929125529.post528872299898760583..comments2023-05-27T11:14:02.426-04:00Comments on Some Space to Think: What Shall We Do With ThisAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14216103531396452644noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1678761812929125529.post-90382485685641488542011-12-02T01:24:44.050-05:002011-12-02T01:24:44.050-05:00@wraith808: I believe that it is The Realms of Atl...@wraith808: I believe that it is <i>The Realms of Atlantasia</i> that a lot of people on RPG.net and Twitter have been sandbagging recently. Available from iUniverse as either POD or a $4 pdf. I believe it is tending to be more simulationist than narrative (and extremely rulebound at 544 odd pages).<br /><br />Personally I think the sandbagging of other games coupled with the low price point for the pdf has managed to garner a lot of sales that it would not otherwise have gotten. At a possible cost of the author's reputation for future products though.<br /><br />Still the author believes in his work enough to shell out for an iUniverse package rather than just producing YAPDF.Reverance Pavanehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01217657347160811310noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1678761812929125529.post-36546482509414744062011-12-01T20:52:19.665-05:002011-12-01T20:52:19.665-05:00Wow, that video is heinously bad, Stuart. Where do...Wow, that video is heinously bad, Stuart. Where do you keep your seemingly infinite supply of youtube links. You always have just the right video for the conversation ;)Pontifexhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01761338487255048337noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1678761812929125529.post-327963395621253812011-12-01T20:46:48.686-05:002011-12-01T20:46:48.686-05:00Ok... I know everyone is trying to be circumspect,...Ok... I know everyone is trying to be circumspect, but can you at least direct me to somewhere that I might be able to get a clue? Because I have no idea what game you're talking about, and I'm curious.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1678761812929125529.post-9389829950558661602011-12-01T17:48:35.186-05:002011-12-01T17:48:35.186-05:00Huh. For me, busting on other games in promotional...Huh. For me, busting on other games in promotional copy--even if it's not calling out specific ones by name--is generally a sign of Poor Form right off, and enough to unsell me on any game. But that's clearly a YMMV sort of thing.Fade Manleynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1678761812929125529.post-31615582033551004032011-12-01T15:31:33.891-05:002011-12-01T15:31:33.891-05:00In fairness, this is far from the first game I'...In fairness, this is far from the first game I've seen to bust on other games in its promotional copy. It's not something I like, and I think it undercuts the games real selling points, but it's not a huge thing.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14216103531396452644noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1678761812929125529.post-68614645072293400032011-12-01T15:23:35.578-05:002011-12-01T15:23:35.578-05:00ROFLMAO!
I had never seen that video before. But...ROFLMAO!<br /><br />I had never seen that video before. But it was definitely tongue in cheek (and let's be honest...we could add another segment, 2012, to that now).<br /><br />However, the author of the product in question was definitely not joking (as far as I could tell).Arcane Springboardhttp://www.myrpgame.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1678761812929125529.post-39916275412113614942011-12-01T15:06:56.130-05:002011-12-01T15:06:56.130-05:00I think the issue is that the author of this produ...<i>I think the issue is that the author of this product seemed to be slagging other products while claiming how great his product was. <br /><br />That combination, <b>something I've never seen before in an RPG product</b>, indicated hubris, which then invited attacks.</i><br /><br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbbqMoEwDqc" rel="nofollow">please review this video</a>... :)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13457050225967190052noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1678761812929125529.post-29714497015189294622011-12-01T15:03:04.621-05:002011-12-01T15:03:04.621-05:00I think the issue is that the author of this produ...I think the issue is that the author of this product seemed to be slagging other products while claiming how great his product was. <br /><br />That combination, something I've never seen before in an RPG product, indicated hubris, which then invited attacks.<br /><br />That and some language I never thought I'd see in a product (ie why there are no half-elves).Arcane Springboardhttp://www.myrpgame.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1678761812929125529.post-81512742504485020132011-12-01T14:59:29.357-05:002011-12-01T14:59:29.357-05:00Mind, I've only seen the website (and know I c...Mind, I've only seen the website (and know I could only do marginally better if that for the web design), but I think part of the issue is that he starts from a stance of apparent ignorance of what has come before (i.e, his claim that no current systems use percentile dice for resolution) and that he seems to attack the other games out there for things he claims they don't do (some of the promotional lit reads like the first post in an edition war). At this point I've not read the book, but at $4 I'm liable to pick up the PDF for instructions sake if nothing else. <br />I'm glad you'll be using this product as an illustration as I'm hoping to publish a few games myself and could use some examples of how to do things.Marche Harehttp://audientvoid.tumblr.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1678761812929125529.post-73186175312588065942011-12-01T14:54:30.129-05:002011-12-01T14:54:30.129-05:00I should add - I have NO IDEA what was said on RPG...I should add - I have NO IDEA what was said on RPG.net. Haven't checked it out, because it seems likely to enrage me, so when I hear generalization of how the discussion goes, that seems to me like talking about Me, Ryan and Josh on twitter.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14216103531396452644noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1678761812929125529.post-35829451282282351372011-12-01T14:52:14.634-05:002011-12-01T14:52:14.634-05:00@Stuart There is no good way to express this excep...@Stuart There is no good way to express this except to say that I own an utterly stupid amount of that amateurish material, and I am hopelessly pollyanna about finding things to like in them. And even for this one, I can say that the author's passion is clearly stamped on every page.<br /><br />But there is a lot of valid, solidly grounded criticism to be had. I'm sorry if that sounds mean, I really am.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14216103531396452644noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1678761812929125529.post-72284452592903021772011-12-01T14:50:15.943-05:002011-12-01T14:50:15.943-05:00Unfortunately a lot of the guff came from RPG.net,...Unfortunately a lot of the guff came from RPG.net, and unfortunately it can get pretty brutal on the dog piling over there. I am not going to say that I did not laugh and snicker when I seen the website, or looked on the book seller's web site. Stuart you are correct, if you look at 40% of the stuff on Drive Thru RPG, it is up there in the same category as the game in question. In the past I have bought my share of Convention Only games. One that comes to mind was a wargame called "The Hunt". Very home made quality to the game, and by the looks one would think the worse, but I still love that game (heck I tried to buy the rights to it about 6 years ago). I bought the game in question this morning and I will give it a fair shake.James C.https://www.blogger.com/profile/14703699913918871901noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1678761812929125529.post-12399559214595690762011-12-01T14:42:57.905-05:002011-12-01T14:42:57.905-05:00I feel like this game has attracted a disproportio...I feel like this game has attracted a disproportional amount of scorn from people over the last couple of days. I hear that it doesn't have a WotC/Paizo style of layout and the website was made by someone without a background in that area... but I don't follow how if it doesn't meet some faux pro standards that everyone should dog pile the guy for putting his work out there.<br /><br />I mean, there's not shortage of amateurish RPG stuff online, free or for sale. Take a look at DriveThruRPG sometime. There's a wide range of stuff for sale there. Why is this product specifically getting so much hate?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13457050225967190052noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1678761812929125529.post-67212812392088533902011-12-01T14:36:16.133-05:002011-12-01T14:36:16.133-05:00This topic has been on my mind as well. Over the p...This topic has been on my mind as well. Over the past 24 hours I have been reminded of what it was like to prepare for my first game release and how terrified I was of what others would think. I have come a long way from those days, yet I still feel very naive about things sometimes. Perhaps I am fortunate to have many friends in said industry who I have been mentored by, or perhaps I was just lucky. Either way there is no excuse not to do research, ask questions, and reach out to the many of us who have learned from our mistakes in the realms of publishing.James C.https://www.blogger.com/profile/14703699913918871901noreply@blogger.com