tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1678761812929125529.post2618318629704434246..comments2023-05-27T11:14:02.426-04:00Comments on Some Space to Think: My Kind of StuntsAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14216103531396452644noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1678761812929125529.post-34027420721860784572013-02-06T10:45:58.053-05:002013-02-06T10:45:58.053-05:00Meant to respond to one of Fred's posts, but s...Meant to respond to one of Fred's posts, but screwed it up. XD<br /><br />Still, this is great stuff to see!Jeremy Pucketthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17982522676206732957noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1678761812929125529.post-86865847378612764422013-02-06T10:43:30.443-05:002013-02-06T10:43:30.443-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Jeremy Pucketthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17982522676206732957noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1678761812929125529.post-23500917963741214882013-02-05T18:07:58.464-05:002013-02-05T18:07:58.464-05:00That is probably meat for a whole post in its own ...That is probably meat for a whole post in its own right regarding the nature of an aspect, why and when they're used and what they mean. The necessity of strict, mechanistic interpretation of Aspects is one of the things that makes the game publishable - as soon as part of the rules steps out of that space but still interacts with it, things break, so you need to make sure that all interactions share a common language, or that there's no interaction. <br /><br />Stunts like these tend to be removed from the regular flow of resolution, which largely means they resolve the question by cheating and just going around it. There are limits to this approach, but you can get pretty far with it.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14216103531396452644noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1678761812929125529.post-72494438162895879562013-02-05T18:02:50.079-05:002013-02-05T18:02:50.079-05:00A) I did nto know that
B) I dont' think the G...A) I did nto know that<br /><br />B) I dont' think the GM or Fred did Either<br /><br />C) THAT IS AWESOMEAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14216103531396452644noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1678761812929125529.post-45478353127744775052013-02-05T17:41:11.720-05:002013-02-05T17:41:11.720-05:00Robin's player here: well, the siblings do ten...Robin's player here: well, the siblings do tend to end up down in Cassidy's lab, via either the screaming of the projects or to brainstorm or to offer to help clean up. We bring the social to the mad scientist, who is really quite polite, so long as you don't mind the volume. Deborah Donoghuehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13757575115119206182noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1678761812929125529.post-90466411465905851552013-02-05T15:57:25.833-05:002013-02-05T15:57:25.833-05:00Interesting. I've spent a while learning that,...Interesting. I've spent a while learning that, with Fate games, one can say one is doing anything, but that means zilch mechanically unless one can point to the mechanic and say, "And I'm using this mechanic, which means I get a +2" or whatever. But, these stunts are not made with that in mind, are they?<br /><br />How do you shift from the "back it up with mechanics" to the more free flowing style without losing the advantages of the former? (I know the main disadvantage -- a sort of disconnect as one says, "But if I tossed a net on him, why is this only a +2 bonus, and only if I pay a fate point after the first round?")Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14301779939306226486noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1678761812929125529.post-43945695238157704192013-02-05T13:29:48.141-05:002013-02-05T13:29:48.141-05:00Nice list of stunts, I didn't see stunts in fa...Nice list of stunts, I didn't see stunts in fate core as such powerful moves. I may have to reread that whole part.<br /><br />About Cassidy, a lot of her stunts have to be made while alone. If it is indeed a social settings, this might not happen that often.<br /><br />Oh and by the way, Fion means ***hole in French.jorscanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1678761812929125529.post-90282330822390387612013-02-05T13:07:29.446-05:002013-02-05T13:07:29.446-05:00Wow! They're great! This is the kink of stuff ...Wow! They're great! This is the kink of stuff that I wanted when I bought Spirit of Century. The Exalted-like stunt chapter was the biggest letdown of the book for me; and one of the reasons why I still prefer Fate 2.0 use of Extras/Stunts. I'm anxious for Fate Core to change this assumption.Tzimiscedraculhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16762161243138880483noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1678761812929125529.post-64740630495185345042013-02-05T11:07:51.319-05:002013-02-05T11:07:51.319-05:00As Cassidy's player, I worry more that someone...As Cassidy's player, I worry more that someone's going to figure out that "Mad Sciency Things" are one of the five items on Cassidy's List.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1678761812929125529.post-33207814806651718762013-02-05T10:34:37.632-05:002013-02-05T10:34:37.632-05:00I play Robin in the game.
As a player, I'd p...I play Robin in the game. <br /><br />As a player, I'd put the set of stunts for Fion and Cassidy on par with each other. Fion can leverage whole political groups and alliances, and has done, quite to Karm's dismay; Cassidy is heavy on the magic and the lore, and most of her siblings Do Not Get It (which is just as well; if they did, I think they'd be somewhat alarmed). In context of the game, where Fion is standing in as Oberon and Dad Surrogate, it comes out as equivalent. He just took subtle control of Karm, for example, whom he betrayed in the last war. Cassidy is a walking time bomb of mad scientist, but I think all the characters are trying to pretend they've got her under control.<br /><br />Fion's player remarked that he sees Fion as a Brand type in the future - having grown up his own set of Elders. I worry what he is going to do with Cassidy - keep her in a lab that constantly rotates through shadow?Deborah Donoghuehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13757575115119206182noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1678761812929125529.post-68271656567631219812013-02-05T10:34:16.161-05:002013-02-05T10:34:16.161-05:00I also wouldn't discount the range of stunts F...I also wouldn't discount the range of stunts Fion has as lesser than Cassidy's by comparison. Cassidy can *do* many things, but Fion -- if fully kitted out with these options -- can step into nearly any situation and know things about it, very very rapidly. That makes Cassidy powerful tactically, but Fion very powerful strategically. And strategic play is how Fion approaches the great game.Fredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08362641974657304051noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1678761812929125529.post-39735514432786130222013-02-05T10:32:12.031-05:002013-02-05T10:32:12.031-05:00Fion can show up anywhere in the Kingdom and get p...Fion can show up anywhere in the Kingdom and get people to do what he says, with far more efficacy than nearly any other sibling around. That people don't like him or -- long term -- trust him is really beside the point. If someone needed to rally an army or reveal a hidden but well positioned ally at a moment's notice, Fion's probably the one to do it.<br /><br />Also worth pointing out -- each of the players has selected only one of these stunts. Right now, we're just looking at the above as the list of options.Fredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08362641974657304051noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1678761812929125529.post-47929702667877580752013-02-05T10:09:19.822-05:002013-02-05T10:09:19.822-05:00Fion had some other ones too (players got to pick ...Fion had some other ones too (players got to pick 1 from the list) but the GM wrote those, so I didn't include them as illustration.<br /><br />Power is an interesting question - Cassidy's are more overly magical because the character was spiked in Lore and Mysticism and had a mad scientist vibe whereas Fion is more of a political creature, so some fo the apparent "power" is more of a reflection fo their wheelhouses.<br /><br />That said, the *actual* power is pretty comparable in the context of the game. Traditionally the ability to do flashy magical things is more powerful, but when the social element of a game is prominent (or even central, as it often the case in Amber the way we play it) then the flash of magic carries less weight.<br /><br />That said, My fellow players read this, so they can weigh in, but I don't think there's any sense of power imbalance at the table.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14216103531396452644noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1678761812929125529.post-55250231351065251372013-02-05T09:44:27.146-05:002013-02-05T09:44:27.146-05:00Why does Cassidy have three times more powers and ...Why does Cassidy have three times more powers and a lot stronger too?Noumenonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01597461989960782762noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1678761812929125529.post-77516574846194411632013-02-05T09:15:25.870-05:002013-02-05T09:15:25.870-05:00Interesting that I picked the Fion stunt that had ...Interesting that I picked the Fion stunt that had a mechanical hook in it. :)Fredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08362641974657304051noreply@blogger.com